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MINUTES
HUTCHINSON PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, June 16, 1986
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Roland Ebent at 8:00 p.m.,
with the following members present: Spencer Beytien, Shu -Mei Hwang,
Larry Romo, Marlin Torgerson, and Elsa Young. Members absent: Thomas
Lyke. Also present: City Administrator Gary D. Plotz, Director of
Engineering Marlow Priebe, City Attorney James Schaefer, Building Offi-
cial Homer Pittman and Fire Marshal George Field.
MINUTES
Mr. Hwang made a motion to approve the minutes of the regular meeting
dated Tuesday, May 20, 1986. Seconded by Mr. Beytien, the motion
carried unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
(A) CONSIDERATION OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS SUBMITTED BY GARY
MILLER
Chairman Ebent opened the public hearing at 8:05 p.m. with the
reading of publication #3563 as published in the Hutchinson Leader
on Thurday, June 5, 1986. The request is for a conditional use
permit to allow the moving of a house from 346 Hassan Street South
to property located on California St.
Director Priebe asked Building Official Pittman if he had
discussed what was proposed to be done to the exterior. Director
Priebe further expressed his concern about exterior work being
completed in a timely manner. He recommended that a time limit
(possibly 6 months) be made a condition of this permit. Discus-
sion followed regarding a time limit requirement. It was
determined that putting a time limit on each application of this
kind might make the builder more aggressive in completing the
exterior remodeling, but would leave some flexibility (as oppossed
to an ordinance) to allow for considerations unique to each appli-
cation, such as, the size of the job, the time of year, etc. City
Attorney Schaefer expressed his concern about what the
consequences might be if the work was not completed when
indicated. Building Official Pittman explained that if work is
not ongoing 6 months after a building permit is issued, a new
permit must be obtained.
Mr. Beytien asked if the off-street parking would be put in when
the house is moved. Director Priebe responded that as this will
be a duplex, 4 off-street parking spaces are required. It could be
provided with a double garage and driveway or parking area in the
adjoining vacant lot. (When it is provided will depend upon where
and how it is going to be provided.)
Mr. Ebent asked if the adjoining lot would remain vacant.
Director Priebe explained that there isn't enough square footage
in one lot due to the size of the house to be moved. It is going
to be used as a duplex and requires both lots. It is his
understanding that it will remain as green area or possibly for
parking.
After discussion, Mr. Torgerson made a motion to close the
hearing. Seconded by Mr. Hwang, the motion carried unanimously
and the hearing was closed at 8:15 p.m. Mr. Torgerson made a
motion to recommend to City Council approval of the conditional
use permit as proposed with the stipulation that the exterior work
be done 6 months from the date the house is moved. Seconded by
Mrs. Young, the motion carried unanimously.
(b) CONSIDERATION OF VACATION OF UTILITY EASEMENTS AS PETITIONED BY
GARY MILLER
Chairman Ebent opened the public hearing at 8:16 p.m. with the
reading of publication #3564 as published in the Hutchinson Leader
on Thursday, June 5 and Tuesday, June 10, 1986. The petition is —
to vacate the drainage and utility easements on the north 6' of
Lot 1 and the South 6' of Lot 2, Block 1 Cal iforia Second
Addition.
Director Priebe explained that the utilities are in in the area
and no one has any specific use for the easements. Without the
vacation, the owner could have trouble selling the property,
financing it or refinancing.
Mr. Torgerson made a motion to close the hearing. Seconded by Mr.
Beytien, the motion carried unanimously and the hearing was closed
at 8:17 p.m. Mr. Romo made a motion to recommend to City Council
approval of the vacation as petitioned. Seconded by Mr. Hwang,
the motion carried unanimously.
(c) CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY PLAT OF "WOODRIDGE" AS SUBMITTED BY
PAT MIKULECKY AND KEVIN COMPTON
Chairman Ebent opened the public hearing at 8:19 p.m. with the
reading of publication #3565 as published in the Hutchinson Leader
on Thursday, June 5, 1986. The proposed plat has nine lots and is
located west of Hilltop Addition.
Mr. Mikulecky was present to explain that the area is zoned R-2
and that 4 of the lots are 3/4 of an acre or larger, 2 are 10,000
square feet and the three others are slightly larger (than
10,000').
Mr. Melvin Ziemer, 845 Oak Street, stated that he owns property to
the south of Connecticut Street. It was his understanding that
the streets would all go straight through (Campbell Lane). I
think it should run down to the tree line and utilize lots on the
lake. Mr. Ziemer then showed a future plan for the area to the
Commission and explained his idea. Discussion followed. There
was discussion of a cul de sac. It was determined that a cul de
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sac is limited to 500' so it would not be feasible.
Mr. Torgerson asked if there was any problem with proposed curve
for snow removal. Director Preibe responded that there was not.
It was explained that the plan allows for building in the open
areas, leaving trees and lake area natural.
Mr. Don Heimerl, 410 Connecticut Street, was present to inquire
about how the development would be excavated. His concern was
having drainage from the new development going onto his property.
Director Priebe explained that the grading would be limited to the
property. Plan will take care of on site drainage by surface
drainage or tile line. There was further discussion of how the
drainage would be handled.
After discussion Mr. Torgerson made a motion to close the hearing.
Seconded by Mrs. Young, the motion carried unanimously and the
hearing was closed at 8:35 p.m. Mr. Romo made a motion to recom-
mend to City Council approval of the preliminary plat as
presented. Seconded by Mr. Hwang, the motion carried unanimously.
(d) CONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY PLAT OF "PLAZA HEIGHTS" AS SUBMITTED
BY DENNIS ALBERTSON AND LARRY HERRMANN
Chairman Ebent opened the hearing at 8:35 p.m. with the reading of
publication #3566 as published in the Hutchinson Leader on
Thursday, June 5, 1986. The proposed plat as o s and is
located on the south side of South Grade Road.
Mr. Jerry Matheny was present representing the applicants.
Director Priebe explained that this property is zoned R-2 so the
development is planned for single family residences or duplexes.
It is laid out to take into consideration R-3 to the south of the
proposed plat. The proposal includes a 30' strip into neighboring
property for Chicago Avenue and a portion of Columbus Street.
Easements would have to be obtained from the property owner before
the final plat is considered. If the easement cannot be obtained,
the roadway would be adjusted to circumvent the adjoining
property.
Mr. Romo asked if Sunset Street is the only outlet. Director
Priebe responded that there are 3 or 4 platted outlets, but that
there is only one outlet onto South Grade Road. Ideally, he
stated, Keith and Steven Streets would be extended, but because of
the existing structure on the adjoining property it isn't possible
to do so. Property owners Linda Willmsen and Barbara Ringstrom
asked about having 6 driveways onto South Grade Road.
Administrator Plotz responded that he had also been concerned
about that but that the alternatives were limited.
After further discussion, Mr. Romo made a motion to close
the hearing. Seconded by Mr. Torgerson, the motion carried
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unanimously and the hearing was closed at 8:49 p.m. Mr. Romo made
a motion to recommend to City Council approval of the plat as
presented, with the understanding that before the final plat is
presented, the developer will be able to get and easement from the
adjoing property owner or change the streets to be within
developer's property. Seconded by Mr. Hwang, the motion carried
unanimously.
(e) CONSIDERATION OF VACATION OF A PORTION OF COLORADO STREET AS
PETITIONED BY TY HELLAND
Chairman Ebent opened the public hearing at 8:50 p.m. with the
reading of publication #3568 as published in the Hutchinson Leader
on Thursday, June 5 and Tuesday, June 10, 1986. The petition is
to vacate Colorado Street from the center of Eighth Avenue to 340'
south.
Mr. Helland was present to explain that a cul de sac coming off
either Eighth Avenue and Colorado Street or Colorado Street and
the future Caroline Avenue have been proposed. He's making the
request because he does not want the street to become a heavily
travelled area. He stated that he feels the main traffic to the
Golf Course should be on Eighth Avenue. He noted as Colorado
Street is not in yet, most people will get used to using Eighth
Avenue and would not miss Colorado not being a through Street.
Mr. Torgerson stated that he contacted the utilities company
regarding the vacation and they stated they were opposed to it.
They plan to run utilities there. Mr. Torgerson also stated that
by approving the vacation, Helland's Seventh Addition would be in
direct violation of Subdivision Ordinance #466 Section 5.213 that
states "Closed subdivisions (with one exit) shall not be
permitted."
Mr. Helland responded that that could be just temporary depending
upon the Bethke Development and other development in the area.
Fire Marshall Field suggested running Colarado parallel with Shady
Ridge Road. He futher stated that from the public safety point of
view, stopping and starting a street creates some real problems
for ambulance and fire trucks.
Mr. Ward Haugen, representing the Country Club, stated that they
are opposed to the vacation as they expect Colorado Street to
become the main entrance to the Golf Course.
Mr. Pat Spaude, 1255 7th Ave. NW, stated that he and 7-10 other
residents in his area are in favor of the vacation because of the
traffic factor. He stated that there are many small children in
the area who would benefit from the vacation.
Mr. Ebent stated that most of those property owners should have
been aware of the fact that Colorado Street was a platted Street
when they bought their property in the area. Discussion followed
regarding the cul de sacs proposed and how the vacation would
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affect Helland's Seventh Addition. Mr. Hwang stated that Dr.
Lyke, representing the utilities commission, expressed their
objection to the vacation. Mr. Beytien commented that you have to
go along with the regulations. Mr. Romo commented that he could
like to see the vacation, but the problems it would create for
emergency vehicles must be the first consideration.
Mr. Hel land stated that he would eliminate one of the lots shown
and have a 6 to 10' public lane for golf carts.
After discussion, Mr. Torgerson made a motion to close the
hearing. Seconded by Mr. Hwang, the motion carried unanimously and
the hearing was closed at 9:15 p.m. Mr. Torgerson made a motion
to reject the petition to vacate as it would cause Helland's
Seventh addition to be in direct violation of Ordinance #E5.213 and
on the recommendation of the Utilities Commission. Seconded by Mr.
Hwang, the motion carried unanimously.
4. OLD BUSINESS
None.
5. NEW BUSINESS
(a) CONSIDERATION OF FINAL PLAT OF STILLINGS-HOEFT ADDITION
Director Priebe explained that the final plat meets all the
requirements of the ordinance. There was a small change made in
Outlot A. The subdivision agreement has been submitted and the
developer is aware of the parks and playground contribution.
After discussion, Mr. Torgerson made a motion to recommend to City
Council approval of the Final Plat as presented. Seconded by Mr.
Beytien, the motion carried unanimously.
(b) CONSIDERATION OF SKETCH PLAN AS SUBMITTED BY DONALD SITZ TO COUNTY
(within two mile radius)
Donald and Hazel Sitz were present to explain their request. Ms.
Sitz distributed some drawings showing the area in relation to
Bradford Street and Sherwood Street. She also showed an aerial
view of the property. It was noted that this area is across from
Prairie View Acres on County Road 29.
Mr. Ebent noted that staff had recommended that for the
preliminary plat the layout be adjusted to show lots abutting a
street that connects to the County Road at a 90 degree angle and
that shows a complete layout of the property for future planning.
Administrator Plotz stated that at the staff meeting, which
consisted of Marlow Priebe, James Marka and himself, he had no
strong feelings against the lots being parallel with County Road
89. His concern is with how the development will tie someday to
the development to the north. He feels that for long range
planning an over all plan of how the land might be developed is a
reasonable request. Since the meeting, Administrator Plotz stated
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that he has seen 4 additional layouts and alternatives.
Director Priebe stated that this is the 2nd development in this
general area, and the property to the northeast had a sketch plan
that covers entire property. He also noted that the "ring road"
abuts this property on the north. He stated that the City tries to
have property owners give a layout of entire property. He stated
that the whole area does not have to be platted, but that he would
like to see an overall plan for the property.
There was discussion of the County's requirement to plat in one
acre lots. Director Priebe responded that the lots would have to
conform to the County's requirements for the preliminary plat, but
that the overall layout would show how it might be laid out in the
event that it would someday come into the city. He feels this is
a plus for the developer and a plus for the person buying the
property.
Ms. Sitz stated that their question is why must they plat the
whole farm when they intend to develop only 6 - 12- lots. Mr.
Priebe responded that he is not asking them to plat the whole
farm but to provide an overall layout for future planning, at the
preliminary plat stage.
Mr. Sitz explained that they intend to plat only 6 lots. If the
County requires an access road, they will plat 12. They have no
plans beyond that.
After discussion, Mr. Torgerson made a motion to state that the
Planning Commission has no objection to the Sketch Plan. Seconded
by Mr. Beytien, the motion carried unanimously.
(c) CONSIDERATION OF FINAL PLAT OF TARADIODLE ACRES AS SUBMITTED TO
COUNTY (WITHIN TWO MILE RADIUS)
Director Priebe stated the subdivision agreement had been
submitted and that there were no changes from the preliminary plat
as previously approved. Mr. Hwang made a motion to recommend to
City Council approval of the final plat as presented. Seconded by
Mr. Romo, the motion carried unanimously.
(d) CONSIDERATION OF FINAL PLAT OF NORTHERN VIEW ACRES AS SUBMITTED TO
COUNTY (WITHIN TWO MILE RADIUS)
Director Priebe stated that the subdivision agreement has been
submitted and there are no changes other than street names on the
final plat. Mr. Torgerson made a motion to recommend to City
Council approval of the final plat as presented. Seconded by Mrs.
Young, the motion carried unanimously.
(e) DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 7.09 F YARD
SPACE ENCROACHMENTS
Building Official Homer Pittman was present to explained the
proposed amendment to Section 7.09. He stated that the way the
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ordinance now reads decks can only extend 6' into yards. In order
for a deck to be functional, it needs to be wider than 6. There
was discussion of the term "yards" as stated in the ordinance.
The Commission asked Attorney Schaefer to come up with language
that would clarify what is meant by "front, rear or exterior side
yard adjoining a street lot line." Mr. Torgerson made a motion to
set a public hearing on the proposed amendment for July 15, 1986,
at the next regular meeting of the Planning Commission. Seconded
by Mr. Romo, the motion carried unanimously.
(f) DISCUSSION OF RENTAL HOUSING PROGRAM OPTION
Director Priebe explained that the article in the packet was from
the Owatonna newspaper about a voluntary rental registration
program. He suggested that the Planning Commission get further
information about such a program and whether or not it is working.
After discussion, Mr. Hwang stated that he would like to see the
direction on whether or not to pursue studying the rental
registration question come from the City Council.
(g) DISCUSSION OF COMBINING PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT PROCESS
Administrator Plotz stated that the City Council would like the
Planning Commission to consider streamlining the platting process
by combining the preliminary and final plat. Discussion followed.
It was the consensus of the Commission to have City Attorney
Schaefer research the possibility. It was noted that the
ordinance could possibly allow an option depending upon number of
lots to be platted, etc.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, Mr. Beytien made
the meeting. Seconded by Mrs. Young, the motion
the meeting was adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
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a motion to adjourn
carried unanimously and