11-15-1983 PCM cMINUTES
HUTCHINSON PLANNING COMMISSION
Tuesday, November 15, 1983
1. CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Hutchinson Planning Commission was
called to order by Chairman Larry Romo at 7:30 P.M., with the
following members present: Ted Beatty, Elsa Young, Roland Ebent,
Thomas Lyke, Don Erickson, Shu -Mei Hwang and Chairman Romo. Also
present: City Administrator Gary D. Plotz, Director of Engineering
Marlow V. Priebe, Building Official Homer Pittman and City Attorney
James H. Schaefer.
2. MINUTES
The minutes of the regular meeting dated -October 18,•1983, were
approved as presented upon motion by Mr. Beatty. Seconded by Mr.
Erickson, the motion carried unanimously. -
3. PUBLIC HEARINGS -
(a) CONSIDERATION OF A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SUBMITTED
BY DICK AND JIM MCCLURE
Chairman Romo opened the hearing at -7:32 P.M -,.with the r@ading
of Publication #3171 as published in the Hutchinson -Leader on
Thursday, November 3, 1983.
The request is for a conditional use permit to allow the con-
struction of a 41 -unit condominium (retirement -center) on the
property located at South Grade Road and Sunset Street (the
southwest corner), as per Planned Unit Development.
City Attorney Schaefer noted that there were restrictive cove-
nants on the property where the proposal is planned: The only
two' -requirements of--the-restrictive covenants are 1) Any con-
struction done on that property area be residential; 2) The
construction must be permissable under R-2 zoning.- It was -..-
Attorney Schaefer's opinion that a Planned Unit Development of
the type Mr. McClure -is proposing is permissable under R-2
zoning and meets the requirements of the restrictive covenants
on the property..
Mr. Jim McClure was present to explain the proposal. He explained
that the plan has 41 units on one level surrounding a center court-
yard. There are 30 garages on the South side of the building. The
exterior finish has not been determined but brick or wood siding
has been considered.
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The structure has been designed as a retirement center for
citizens 55 and older. Each unit will be privately owned.
Association dues will cover various amenities; such as, a
van that will be provided for the center, commons area, din-
ing area, recreation area, etc.
The site under consideration was chosen because it is within
walking distance of a major shopping center, close to medical
facilities, financial institutions and the various branch
offices, near a supermarket as well as a nearby motel to accomo-
date overnight guests.
Mr. Ancher-Nelsen and Ms. Carol Haukos were present to comment
on how the proposal meets one of the needs identified by the
Hutchinson Elderly Services Task Force. A member of the task
force, Mr. Nelsen explained that they had found a serious need
for housing for the retired, middle-income citizen of Hutchinson—
There are over 500 units of subsidized housing in Hutchinson. The
task force is looking for an operation where you disassociate witty
the government entirely and encourage private investment for those
who were willing and able to do so.
There is a similar project that has been completed in Northfield,
Minnesota. Mr. Nelson, Ms. Haukos and Mr. McClure had visited the
the center and were very impressed with all aspects of it. The
project Mr. McClure has proposed was designed by the same archi-
tect.
Mr. Nelson also commented that he didn't care where the project
was built, but that there is a definite need for this type of
housing in Hutchinson and that Mr. McClure's plan has a good deal
of merit.
Ms. Haukos supported Mr,_ Nelsen's statements and presented a hand-
out on the "Goals, Objectives and Strategies Related to Elderly
Services in the Hutchinson Community."
Discussion followed. The following questions, responses and
comments were part of the discussion.
Chairman Romo: Is there direct access to the development from
South Grade Road?
Mr. McClure: .The only. -.access to the development is from Sunset
Street.
Mr. Ebent: The view from South Grade Road would be a row of
30 garage doors.
Mr. McClure: We put the garage doors in the best view for the
people living within the units. It is designed
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for the privacy,of the people within the units.
Mr. Erickson: My biggest concern is consistency with the compre-
hensive plan and harmony in the area.
Mr. McClure: Each unit will be privately owned. These people have
pride in ownership and will keep the project well-
maintained. I think it will fit in well with the
area.
Mr. Erickson: When I think of harmonizing with single family units,
I don't think of looking across to garage doors.
Are there easements for the extension of Keith Street?
Mr. Priebe: -
Keith Street is a platted street only to be extended
if someone comes up with a plat for it. There are
no easements -set up. -
Linda Willmsen:
We feel Jim has a good plan. I don't know if we want
935 Steven St.
it in our neighborhood. At the time when the bank'
property was rezoned, Pat Flynn assured us that the
only thing that could be built would house no more
than 2 units. Among our concerns are multi -family
dwellings. We would not like apartments. He said
townhouses would be built there. We don't want that
many people in there. There is not much grassy area.
The building will overwhelm the area. (Mrs. Willmsen
presented a petition signed by neighborhood residents
asking the commission to deny the permit in this area.)
Barbara Ringstrom:
I object to the plan.- My feeling is that I already
934 Keith St.
live there. I don't want to see that complex in my
neighborhood.
Joan Padrnos:
We are new residents. My biggest concern when pur-
955 Keith St.
chasing was what was going in across from us. We
were assured it would be single family dwellings.
We have a lot of traffic on that road already. It
will increase traffic and we all have small children.
It would be a better view for us if the project would
be moved back 660'. What happens when "Mom and Dad" are
gone? Will the kids start moving in? I am very con-
cerned about what you're trying to do now.
B. Ringstrom:
Are there plans to put sidewalks in that area?
Mr. Priebe:
Our present sidewalk plan makes that street (South
Grade Road) eligible for sidewalk in the future. In
the phase we are in now, we are trying to correct
poor existing sidewalk throughout the city.
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Valerie Doering: I remember when we bought our home in 1979.
954 Steven St. First the area across the street was rezoned.
We compromised. The first 660' south would
be one and two family residences. Now it looks
like we are arguing for the same thing again.
City Administrator Plotz: I think that you're wondering why the
request got this far. Everyone has the oppor-
tunity to apply for a permit, as Jim has. A PUD
permit allows a greater density than what is
allowed without a permit in that zoning.
There is a provision in every zoning classifi-
cation for that. The restrictive covenants
stipulate that it would allow R-2 zoning for
residential uses --that it be limited to single
family. We cannot turn down the right of the
person to apply for a public hearing.
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B. Ringstrom: Theoretically; -we could be here every year.
Attorney Schaefer: Without the restrictive covenants, much more
would have been possible. The restrictive
covenants have eliminated many possibilities
(read list from ordinance), but do allow res-
idential. The only question now is if this
PUD meets neighborhood standards.
Leonard Larson: I think it is planned for the wrong place. This
area is zoned for duplexes.
Mr. McClure: This proposal has 62% green area ... more than you
would have for single family dwellings or duplexes.
This structure will probably house no more than
82 people. Density is not much more than if a
series of small duplexes was built where you
could have several more people per unit. There
is no --guarantee that the structure will remain
a retirement center. Once the unit is purchased,
it may be sold to someone else; however, it would
take action of the whole cluster to change it -
(the minimum age of the residents).
Mr. Priebe: According to the comprehensive plan, the area
allows for medium to high density or 8 or more
per acre. The proposal meets the comprehensive
plan. The request is in accordance with R-2
requirements. Based on information that I have
received at state conferences, it's my understan .g
that you cannot deny a conditional use permit that
meets the requirements. You can put conditions on
it. The conditions can't be arbitrary and must be
within reason.
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Mr. Nelsen: Can you turn the plan around so the view is better
for the residents there now?
Mr. McClure: It has been designed with the residents(of the PUD)
in mind. We also want to work with the neighbor-
hood. Certain items we can change.
Ron Prybil: Set the whole thing back farther.
Mr. Priebe: We don't have an actual drawing of•how it will fit
on the existing contours. There is about a 19'
difference in elevation from the east to the west.
We need more drawings to fit the site.
Mr. Prybil: Personally, I wouldn't have any objections if you
set it back. Let's worry about the people who are
already living there. My biggest concern is the
30 garages. I don't want to look at them.
Mr. McClure: The property south of our proposal is owned by_
another property. The purchase price of each
unit will range from $45,000 upwards to about
$65,000/70,000.
Mr. Beatty: Rather than close this hearing, I think we should
continue it. I think of the intent of the restrictive
covenants made in the past and the fact that if this
request meets all the requirements, we can't deny it.
I move to continue this hearing until the next meeting,
before we make a decision on the request,
Mrs. Young: I recall another situation that aroused concern; that
was Town and Country Estates. Neighbors were very
upset. It is now a very nice looking development --
tidy. People that have retired are living there. I
agree that we need to do more thinking about this
request. Maybe by making a few changes the proposal
will be acceptable.
Mr. Ebent: I think this concept is needed in Hutchinson. If
this is the place for it is the question. Is it
feasibletobuild 41 units at one time?
Dr. Lyke: My feelings are as Ted has explained. I think I hear
from the citizens that intent was an important factor.
Yet, if the proposal meets the requirements, we can't
deny it.
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Mr. Erickson: Intent did have a lot to do with the covenant
part of it.
Shu Mei Hwang: I think the proposal can really be an enhance-
ment to the area. It would be good to see an
artist's conception of what it's going to look
like. Can it be more spread out on more land?
Mr. Erickson: If we continue the hearing, I think we should
ask for easements for the extension of Keith
Street.
Mr. Beatty: Keith Street was not planned to be extended.
W. McClure: We have looked at other sites. The residents
of this project will want the same things you
want --quiet, low traffic, etc. Moving the
garages to another location is possible. We 0
plan to build the entire structure as one unit.
Construction would not begin until 75% of the
units are sold.
Chairman Romo: It was felt that this was not the type of
project going in. I feel there is some area
where this can be worked out. I suggest that
the neighbors get-together with Mr. McClure
prior to the next meeting.
Mr. McClure commented that they weren't against making changes. He --
would like some direction as to what kind of changes would make the
proposal more acceptable to the neighborhood.
It was the consensus of the commission that Mr. McClure should meet
with representatives of the neighborhood to discuss possible changes.
Mr. Nelsen suggested that anyone who -could-should make a trip to North-
field to see the project there.
Mr. Prybil stated that the exterior should be somewhat like the bank.
Make it look like you would want it around your own home.
The motion to continue the hearing to the next meeting was seconded by
Mr._ Erickson.-- The_ motion carried_ unanimously.,
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4. Old Business
None.
5. New Business
None.
6. Adjourment
There being no further business, Mr. Beatty made a motion to adjourn
the meeting. Seconded by Mrs. Young, the motion carried unanimously.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:15 P.M.