12-20-2005 PCM
MINUTES
HUTCHINSON PLANNING COMMISSION
Tuesday, December 20, 2005
Hutchinson City Council Chambers
1. CALL TO ORDER 5:30 P.M.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Dean Kirchoff at 5:30 p.m. with
the following members present: John Lofdahl, Jim Haugen, Lynn Otteson,
Mike Flaata, Farid Currimbhoy, Robert Hantge and Chairman Kirchoff.
Absent: None Also present: Julie Wischnack, AICP, Planning Director,
Kent Exner, City Engineer, Marc Sebora, City Attorney and Bonnie Baumetz,
Planning Coordinator
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a) Consideration of Minutes dated November 15, 2005
Ms. Otteson moved to approve the minutes of November 15, 2005 as
submitted. Seconded by Mr. Flaata. The minutes were approved
unanimously.
3. PUBLIC HEARINGS
a) CONSIDERATION OF AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE
REGARDING LOT COVERAGE IN THE R1, R2 AND R3 DISTRICT
SINGLE AND TWO FAMILY
Chairman Kirchoff opened the hearing at 5:35 p.m. with the reading of
publication #7412 as published in the Hutchinson Leader on December 8,
2005.
Ms. Wischnack commented on discussions from last month not to change
the definition. She explained the present ordinance allows to count the
structures only when calculating the coverage. She stated Barr
Engineering wrote the Stormwater Management Plan and are here to
explain the plan. Mr. Exner commented on the staff discussion and that
they are uncomfortable with increasing the lot coverage because of
drainage. The plan was written in 1996, since then, three regional ponds
have been constructed. Mr. Exner stated Mr. Bob Obermeyer, Barr
Engineering, will explain the plan. Discussion followed on how often the
plan is updated. Mr. Exner stated the construction of the ponds are
sometimes assessed by the City and sometimes the development pays
for the ponds and are credited for the pond. There was discussion
regarding the danger of large regional ponds as opposed to the several
smaller ponds. Mr. Exner explained the types of ponding. He stated the
City has an easement to the pond but the ponds are located on the
platted lot. Atty. Sebora stated the ponds are owned by the property
owner.
Mr. Bob Obermeyer, Barr Engineering, commented on the reason for
ponding to cut down the size of the infrastructure. He explained the
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benefits of the stormwater management plan based on ultimate
management conditions and the amount of hard surface. The plan is
based on the amount of hard surface. He commented on levels of
service and levels of protection. He stated the plan provides uniform
design standards across the City. The plan includes all hardsurfaced
areas in the City.
Discussion followed on the recommended coverage and the change
proposed. Mr. Obermeyer commented on the doubling of coverage in the
higher density zoning districts. He again reminded a uniform level of
protection must be provided within the entire City.
There was further discussion of the reasons to address coverage and
enforcement for single family and multi-family. Ms. Wischnack
commented on the recent single family lot coverage issue creating a
drainage problem.
There was discussion on how to determine the percentage of coverage
and shedding of water and what the percentage should be. Development
generates more water volume to the river. Ms. Wischnack stated the
Corps of Engineers study was done in the 90's to determine elevations.
She explained the process of approving the elevations when there is an
application for a building permit. She stated the City must follow what
the engineers have designed for elevations and drainage. Staff does
review the elevation of the grading plan. Discussion followed on the need
for requiring an as-built after the survey.
Mr. Exner stated the MPDS permit requires updates unless the land use
plan changes there is no need to change the Stormwater plan.
Discussion followed on the possibility of overloading the ponds. Mr.
Exner stated the city monitors the ponds during storm events. Ponds are
recertified every 20 to 25 years or if there is greater runoff.
Mr. Lofdahl stated he would recommend a 40% coverage and not grant
variances. There was discussion of changing the definition. Mr. Lofdahl
stated the definition could remain as the structures. Definition must be
solid.
Mr. Obermeyer explained 40% may not impact if there are a few units.
There could be a problem if there would significant increases.
Mr. Brandon Fraser, 510 Jackson St., commented on the potential issues
of R1 coverage with larger garages. The trend may be overloading the
runoff.
Mr. Haugen made a motion to close the hearing. Seconded by Mr.
Currimbhoy. The hearing closed at 6:30 p.m. Mr. Lofdahl commented on
the definition of the coverage calculations. Ms. Wischnack explained the
method of calculating the coverage today. Mr. Haugen asked about a
disclaimer to have engineering sign-off. There was discussion of what
happens in the older part of town. Atty. Sebora commented on true
hardship which must be demonstrated by the property owner. Ms.
Wischnack will take 5 permits in the older part of town and present at the
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next meeting. Mr. Haugen made a motion to table the item to January.
Seconded by Mr. Hantge. The motion carried unanimously. Ms.
Wischnack stated this will be readvertised next month.
b) CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE EXEMPTING THE CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT REQUIREMENTS FOR MOVING HOUSES IN THE CITY
LIMITS FOR THE HOUSES ALONG THE HWY 7 CONSTRUCTION
AREA
Chairman Kirchoff opened the hearing at 6:40 p.m. with the reading of
publication #7413 as published in the Hutchinson Leader on December 8,
2005.
Ms. Wischnack explained the concern of moving houses along the Hwy
construction area and the length of the conditional use permit process.
She stated they will still need a moving permit. She explained the
ordinance would end in 2008.
Mr. Exner explained the bidding process for the houses. The MNDOT bid
approval process will be complete in April.
Ms. Wischnack commented on the demolition process and permitting and
abandonment of services. There is a potential of 15 houses being
moved. Some of the accessory buildings also could be moved.
Discussion followed regarding the process and giving a handout to
MNDOT in the bidding process to outline the conditional use permit
requirements.
Ms. Otteson made a motion to close the hearing. Seconded by Mr.
Haugen the hearing closed at 6:50 p.m. Ms. Otteson made a motion to
recommend not to exempt the Hwy construction process for conditional
use permits to move structures. Seconded by Mr. Hantge. The motion
carried unanimously.
4. NEW BUSINESS
a) CONSIDERATION OF A ONE LOT SKETCH KNOWN AS JENSEN
ADDITION SUBMITTED BY NEIL JENSEN
Ms. Wischnack commented on the proposed sketch. Discussion followed
on the proposal and the staff recommendation to plat the entire property
into one lot.
b) CONSIDERATION OF EXTENSION OF FRASER'S SUBDIVISION
PRELIMINARY PLAT
Ms. Wischnack explained the requirement to extend the preliminary plat
one year from the 2yth of Dec. Mr. Lofdahl abstained. Mr. Haugen made
a motion to approve the request. Seconded by Mr. Flaata discussion
followed. Ms. Wischnack stated the vacation of Honey Tree Rd must be
petitioned by both property owners. The abutting property owner must
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also sign for the vacation of the "as-traveled" road. The motion carried
unanimously.
c) DISCUSSION OF ZONING CHANGES ALONG THE HWY 7 CORRIDOR
Ms. Wischnack explained this is an informational discussion of the
potential use of property along the Hwy 7. She stated there must be an
intense land use plan. There is a possibility of houses turning into offices.
The Planning Commission is to express your concerns and ideas.
Ms. Wischnack stated this could be a 6 month process.
d) UPDATE ON WATER TREATMENT PLANT PROGRESS
Ms. Wischnack revisit of the landscaping plan of the water treatment plan.
Mr. Exner explained the landscape plan design. Earthtec provided
rederings of the landscape plan.
Mr. Exner commented on the elevation of the tank and the building.
Discussion followed on the need for extensive landscaping. The
landscaping design is included in the bid. The location dictates the
discussion of buffering. There will be 50 feet from the Hwy road edge to
the tank.
There was further discussion of screening on the front of the tank.
The consensus of the Planning Commission is for EarthTec to return with
a new rendering after we see the bid results. There should be a bid with
different options.
5. OLD BUSINESS
There was discussion of Applebee's parking requirement. Ms. Wischnack
stated she would review the original permit.
There was also discussion of 3M screening for new development on the
property.
6. COMMUNICATION FROM STAFF
7. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business the meeting adjourned at 7:30 p.m.