04-20-2004 PCM
MINUTES
HUTCHINSON PLANNING COMMISSION
Tuesday, April 20,2004
Hutchinson City Council Chambers
1. CALL TO ORDER 5:30 P.M.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Dean Kirchoff at 5:30 p.m. with
the following members present: Brandon Fraser, Jim Haugen, Lynn Otteson,
Mike Flaata, Farid Currimbhoy, Robert Hantge and Chairman Kirchoff.
Absent: Also present: Julie Wischnack, AICP, Planning Director, Marc
Sebora, City Attorney, John Rodeberg, Director of Engineering and Bonnie
Baumetz, Planning Coordinator
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
a) Consideration of Minutes dated March 16,2004
Mr. Haugen moved to approve the minutes, with minor reVISions, of
March 16, 2004 as submitted. Seconded by Mr. Flaata. The minutes
were approved unanimously.
3. PUBLIC HEARINGS
a) CONSIDERATION OF VARIANCE REQUESTED BY MIKE CORCORAN,
PROPERTY OWNER, TO PLACE HARDSURFACED PARKING UP TO
THE PROPERTY LINE LOCATED AT 934 HWY 15 SOUTH
Chairman Kirchoff reopened the hearing at 5:45 p.m. with the reading of
publication #7159 as published in the Hutchinson Leader on Thursday,
March 4, 2004.
Ms. Wischnack updated the Planning Commission on the confusion
regarding the amount of parking lot to be paved. She explained the
owners of the apartments to the west did not sign the agreement. She
commented that all the property owners affected must sign the application
and a parking lot access agreement. She commented on the phases of
paving being requested.
Ms. Wischnack commented on the following staff recommendations and
drawing:
1. The property owners enter into a cross parking
agreement/easement which would document the situation.
The easement should clarify responsibilities regarding
maintenance, snow removal etc.
2. Improve the catch basin system that is accumulating a
large amount of siltation. This could be accomplished with
plantings and grass around the catch basis.
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3. The parking lot must be setback 3 feet from the west and
south property lines.
Mike Corcoran, property owner, explained this was more complicated and
at this time would request to move forward to pave Phase I and sometime
in the future pave Phase II according to the staff recommendation and
drawing.
Ms. Wischnack explained a variance does not expire in six months.
Mr. Rodeberg explained the new drawing with a 0 foot setback on the
North edge of the property and a 3 foot setback on the west and south
with landscaping to protect the catch basin.
Mr. Hantge asked if this property would require a storm septor.
Mr. Rodeberg stated this property is under an acre of impervious
coverage and does not need to provide storm water ponding.
Ms. Wischnack stated there is now an agreement between Mr. Corcoran
and Mr. Fahey for cross use of the parking lot. She stated utilities has no
issues with the lot.
Ms. Otteson questioned if this goes on 2 to 3 years should there be
reference to the plan that must be followed and use the date on the plan
dated tonight.
Mr. Haugen made a motion to close the hearing. Seconded by Mr.
Hantge, the hearing closed at 5:55 p.m. Mr. Fraser made a motion to
recommend approval of the request with staff recommendations and
drawing dated 4/20/2004. Seconded by Mr. Hantge. The motion carried
unanimously. Ms. Wischnack stated this item will be placed on the City
Council consent agenda at their meeting held April 27, 2004 in the
Council Chambers at 5:30 p.m.
b) CONSIDERATION OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUESTED BY
BRIAN PONA TH, PROPERTY OWNER, TO CONSTRUCT A 3-PLEX
WITH GARAGES LESS THAN 400 SQ. FT. LOCATED AT 446
PROSPECT STREET N.E IN AN R3 DISTRICT
Chairman Kirchoff opened the hearing at 6:00 p.m. with the reading of
publication #7171 as published in the Hutchinson Leader on Thursday,
April 8, 2004.
Ms. Baumetz commented on the request stating this is the same request
as submitted in June of 2003. She explained the request for construction
of a 3-plex with garages less than 400 sq. ft. She commented on the
zoning history allowing up to 7 dwelling units on the property. There is an
existing 4-pex built in 1997. Ms. Baumetz explained the entire
development must be hardsurfaced before the new building is occupied.
There are 18 parking spaces required for this property. She stated the
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Planning Staff is in favor of granting the Conditional Use Permit with the
following conditions adding number 6 regarding trash containers:
1. Parking must be hardsurfaced before new building is
occupied.
2. There must be a 20 foot minimum hardsurfaced driveway to
the 4 - plex on the property for emergency access. No
Parking will be allowed on the driveway to the 4-plex.
3. Verify water and sewer service location.
4. Relocation of natural gas or electric services will be at owner's
expense.
5. Verify electric load requirement.
6. Section 6.06 of the Zoning Ordinance requires trash
receptacles must be shown on the site plan and must be
shielded.
Mr. Fraser made a motion to close the hearing. Seconded by Ms.
Otteson. The hearing closed at 6:05 p.m. Ms. Otteson made a motion to
recommend approval of the request with 6 staff recommendations.
Seconded by Mr. Currimbhoy. The motion carried unanimously. Ms.
Baumetz stated this item will be placed on the City Council consent
agenda at their meeting held April 27, 2004 in the Council Chambers at
5:30 p.m.
c) CONSIDERATION OF 3-LOT PRELIMINARY PLAT TO BE KNOWN AS
MEADOW LINKS VIEW SUBMITTED BY BUTCH HAUSLADEN,
PROPERTY OWNER
Chairman Kirchoff opened the hearing at 6:06 p.m. with the reading of
publication #7173 as published in the Hutchinson Leader on Thursday,
April 8, 2004.
Ms. Wischnack commented on the preliminary plat and reminded the
Planning Commission of the previous plat known as First Addition to The
Meadows. This plat will incorporate one lot from the previous plat. This
is a 3 lot plat. Staff discussion centered around the sewer accessibility.
Mr. Rodeberg explained the route for service would be to run sewer line
in 12th Avenue and under School Road. He stated a neighborhood
meeting would be held as soon as possible. He explained sanitary sewer
would be placed in the wide easements provided.
Ms. Wischnack commented on the fees connected with platting lots and
the fact there are many trees on the parcel which the Planning
Commission may want to waive the tree escrow requirement.
Butch Hausladen, property owner, commented on the tree escrow
requirement and explained the placement of trees already on his parcel.
Ms. Wischnack stated the ordinance allows for the Council to waive the
requirement.
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Scott Plowman, neighboring property owner, asked about the cost of the
project. Mr. Rodeberg stated the estimated cost is $100,000 to $125,000
to get to the other side of School Road.
Mr. Hantge made a motion to close the hearing. Seconded by Mr.
Haugen, the hearing closed at 6:10 p.m. Mr. Haugen made a motion to
recommend approval of the request with the following conditions: the tree
escrow required may be waived, relocation of utilities will be at preoperty
owner's expense, fees for SAC/WAC, parks, and electric service territory
are required and there will be additional assessments concurrent with the
sanitary sewer line. Seconded by Mr. Hantge. The motion carried
unanimously. Ms. Wischnack stated this item will be placed on the City
Council consent agenda at their meeting held April 27, 2004 in the
Council Chambers at 5:30 p.m.
d) CONSIDERATION OF VARIANCE REQUESTED BY KERRY
KRUEGER, PROPERTY OWNER, TO REDUCE FRONT YARD
SETBACK FROM 25 FEET TO 18.5 FEET BY REMOVING A 6' X 8'
NON-CONFORMING PORCH AND CONSTRUCTING AN 8'X 21' 3
SEASON PORCH ONTO HOUSE LOCATED AT 545 ERIE ST. S.E.
Chairman Kirchoff opened the hearing at 6: 11 p.m. with the reading of
publication #7172 as published in the Hutchinson Leader on Thursday,
April 8, 2004.
Ms. Baumetz commented on the request to reduce the front yard setback
from 25 feet to 18.5 feet for construction of an 8 foot by 21 foot 3 season
porch to replace and existing 6 foot by 8 foot porch. She explained the
staff were not unanimously in favor of granting the variance. She
commented on the staff recommendations as follows:
1. The variance is for the project as identified in the site plan dated
March 17, 2004. Any deviations from that plan would require further
review.
2. Utility relocation would be paid for by the applicant.
Mr. Rodeberg stated the hardship was the question by some of the staff.
However, there is no major impact if the variance is granted.
Kerry Krueger, property owner, explained the hardship of the age of the
home and the fact the porch must be removed and the variance is
needed to replace the porch.
Ms. Otteson made a motion to close the hearing. Seconded by Mr.
Hantge, the hearing closed at 6:17 p.m. Mr. Flaata made a motion to
recommend approval of the request with staff recommendations.
Seconded by Mr. Currimbhoy. The motion carried unanimously. Ms.
Baumetz stated this item will be placed on the City Council consent
agenda at their meeting held April 27, 2004 in the Council Chambers at
5:30 p.m.
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e) CONSIDERATION OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
REQUESTED BY HUTCHINSON MFG TO CONSTRUCT 2 -
40X80 POLE TYPE STORAGE BUILDINGS IN THE IC DISTRICT
LOCATED AT 720 HWY 7 WEST
Chairman Kirchoff opened the hearing at 6:19 p.m. with the reading of
publication #7174 as published in the Hutchinson Leader on Thursday,
April 8, 2004.
Ms. Wischnack explained the new request for two 40'x80' pole type
buildings located at Hutchinson Mfg. She reported there have been many
discussions with Mr. Daggett and staff. She commented on the
Memoradum of Understanding and the following conditions:
1. A memorandum of understanding be signed by the
property owner and the City regarding the landscaping
improvements.
2. Written verification that the storm water pond on the
western portion of the property is in working order.
3. That there be paved access to the building constructed
when the Highway 7 improvement is completed in the area
or no later than 2007 (if the highway project does not
occur). The paved access shall begin at the end of the
highway improvement project pavement, and continue 110
feet to the south on the most easterly access to the parcel.
4. An additional hydrant and water looping must occur when
the frontage road is constructed. A separate assessment
hearing process will be provided for this consideration.
5. Building code compliance must be discussed with the
building official.
6. The conditional use permit is valid for six months, unless
an extension is requested or construction of the addition
has commenced.
Mr. Hantge questioned the conditions staying the same with the memo of
understanding covering remaining issues.
Ms. Wischnack stated the property owner requested more detailed
recommendations along with a memorandum of understanding.
Mr. Rodeberg stated there will be much construction in the area with the
Hwy 7 project. He explained the timing is not right to complete paving at
Hutch Mfg right now. The conditions need to be defined.
Atty. Sebora stated a memorandum of understanding is important in a
case like this. It puts both parties on notice. He explained #5 deals with
future assessments through the 429 process.
Mr. Fraser made a motion to close the hearing. Seconded by Mr. Haugen,
the hearing closed at 6:27 p.m. Ms. Otteson made a motion to
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recommend approval of the request with staff recommendations 1-6.
Seconded by Mr. Hantge. The motion carried unanimously. Ms.
Wischnack stated this item will be placed on the City Council consent
agenda at their meeting held April 27, 2004 in the Council Chambers at
5:30 p.m.
4. NEW BUSINESS
a) CONSIDERATION OF LOT SPLIT REQUESTED BY PAUL BETKER,
PROPERTY OWNER, LOCATED AT 165 - 5TH AVE NW
Ms. Wischnack commented on the frontage width and the drainage
challenges because of the topography changes. She stated the property
is approximately 3-4 feet lower than the street area on the eastern portion
of the property. She explained the history of the lot being platted as lot 5
originally. Before 1984, the property was tax combine with Lot 6 (to the
west) and then split off again sometime in 2001.
Ms. Wischnack stated the 1991 McLeod County Soils survey indicates
this property is within a 414 soil which is Hamel soil type. Hamel soils
indicate severe wetness for shallow excavations. She commented on
the review of the site for drainage issues completed by Barr Engineering
in August of 2003. She commented on the subdivision regulations,
Section 12.4, Subd. 3 regarding drainage and flood hazard areas. Ms.
Wischnack reported staff would recommend denial because of drainage
issues.
Mr. Rodeberg stated flooding was a problem in the area last year. He
stated the entire farm field to the north drains onto the property which
needs four times the amount of storage to protect the property in a 100
year event. He explained there is one portion above the curb in the SW
corner. There could not legally be a building permit issued for the second
lot. He commented on possible options to purchase property to the north.
Discussion followed on filling the lot. Mr. Rodeberg stated the water
would be directed to other properties creating liability issues. There is no
easy solution.
Ms. Wischnack stated the lot might accommodate one home but not two.
Mr. Rodeberg agreed with Ms. Wischnack.
Randy Redman, Your Home Realty, representing Mr. Betker, commented
on the approval of the homes to the east and west which are at a higher
elevation. He stated there will not be basements in the homes to be built.
He questioned that the lots were buildable at one time noting there are
two curb cuts and two utility services to the lots. Mr. Redman stated
grading on the west and east properties have flooded this property.
Mr. Rodeberg stated he doesn't know what happened in the past. There
are no records. He explained the property has not flooded many times.
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Discussion followed on the recent filling on the property. The grading has
been changed
Ms. Wischnack stated the 1985 topographic is at the same elevation as
the recent survey.
Mr. Hantge asked how slab on grade homes at the same elevation would
change the drainage flow.
Mr. Rodeberg stated there is a catch basin on the property. Mr.
Wischnack stated we research lowest floor elevations when issuing a
building permit.
Mr. Rodeberg stated we do not allow building on low areas and this lot
has always been low. He again stated there can not safely be created
two buildable lots. The property was purchased by Mr. Betker in 2001.
Mr. Currimbhoy commented on the soils.
Mr. Flaata asked if anything has changed on the property since 2001.
Mr. Redman stated Mr. Betker would like it split like it was before.
Ms. Wischnack explained the previous split is not in our records.
Mr. Rodeberg stated the city would work with Mr. Betker to build on the
lot.
Atty. Sebora commented on a court action involving the parcel. He stated
the neighbors have concerns regarding the drainage. The water must not
be diverted to other properties.
Mr. Redman asked if it would be possible to elevate to build a house on
slab.
Mr. Rodeberg stated there may be a way to look at mitigating but they
don't have the right to do anything to affect the neighbor's property. This
lot has historically been the lowest lot.
Discussion followed on the original plat with this as a platted lot.
Mr. Fraser made a motion to reject the lot split request due to the
engineering assessment of the drainage and soil type issues. Seconded
by Mr. Currimbhoy. The motion carried unanimously.
b) CONSIDERATION OF SKETCH PLAN SUBMITTED BY BRIAN
BURGESS LOCATED AT 1383 JEFFERSON ST. S.E.
Ms. Wischnack commented on the sketch plan reminding the
Commissioners there was a different sketch plan last month. She
explained the property owner revised the plan since last month to include
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lots for twin home development. She stated many times the developer
will design the lots to accommodate single family homes and later split
the lots for twin homes depending on the market. She explained
common practice is to place a 32 foot street on the plat. Staff
contemplated this cul-de-sac as a private road. Ms. Wischnack stated a
wetland delineation is required to determine the wetland areas. She
commented on the stormwater management, timing of the project and the
fees. She explained the need to reconfigure the lots to meet lot size
requirements. The property must be rezoned to R2 if twinhomes are to
be constructed on the lots.
Discussion followed on private street confusion to the property owners.
Associations are challenging.
Mr. Rodeberg explained to get the density wanted, associations are
created. He pointed out this sketch is overly dense for the property.
Density is driven by the developer to meet the market.
Brian Burgess, property owner, stated he has hired an engineering firm to
help with the plan. He explained this is not exactly what will be presented
in a preliminary plat. He stated the density is to make it work financially.
Wesley Foss, property owner, stated this is just a preliminary layout
sketch. He stated they can downsize the lots to meet the minimum
requirements. They do not want to pile people on top of each other.
There is approximately 4 - 6 buildable acres.
Mr. Burgess asked for input on the possibility of a private road.
Mr. Rodeberg stated the street sign colors are blue on private streets and
green on public streets.
Mr. Burgess asked for direction on the sketch plan.
Mr. Rodeberg explained the City has private roads all over the City. He
stated that is common in the metro area. He explained working with an
engineer is the right direction to take. He commented on the issues with
private roads. There must be an association to deal with the
maintenance of the private road.
The consensus of the Planning Commission is to continue with the plat.
They are on the right track. Set up an association to deal with the private
road.
Ms. Wischnack stated this item does not go to the City Council.
c) CONSIDERATION OF SKETCH PLAN SUBMITTED BY LOWELL
WRIGHT LOCATED ON JEFFERSON ST
Ms. Wischnack explained the location of the property on Jefferson Street.
She stated the property owner is looking for feedback. There are three
lots proposed with a narrow flag lot. She stated the lot depth language is
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a concern. There must be a survey and there will be development fees
as with all other plats. She explained the staff had a divided opinion on
the sketch plan. One opinion is that this is a rural area and the plat
should be allowed. The other opinion is to be mindful of future
development in the area.
Mr. Fraser commented on the large assessments in the area because of
the large lots.
Mr. Rodeberg stated it is a large deferred assessment. He noted there
are services available to the two front lots. He explained this is a difficult
situation because of the large assessments. He commented the area is
well suited for rural not urban. He stated interest in platting will be added
when activated after 10 years. The City is trying not to put a hardship on
properties. Mr. Rodeberg commented on flag lots. The City tries to limit
the risk of creating flag lots but it is a benefit to the City to allow it in some
areas.
Lowell Wright, property owner, stated the lot was bought in 1977. He
understood the lots could be split when the engineer recommended to put
in service to the front lots at the time Jefferson Street was reconstructed.
Jerome Karl, Fahey Realty, commented on the shared driveway and the
rezoning to R2.
Mr. Rodeberg stated they overcompensated on stubs so the City would
not have to rip up the street again. It is not being assessed unless used.
Consensus of the Planning Commission is to move forward with the plat
and meet with staff.
d) CONSIDERATION OF FINAL PLAT TO BE KNOWN AS SOUTH FORK
RIDGE SUBMITTED BY FARR DEVELOPMENT
Ms. Wischnack commented on the final plat and the Phase I area. She
commented on the 8 recommendations in the preliminary plat. We have
received the homeowners documents. Numbers 3 - 5 are completed, 6
they have added language to clarify drainage, 7 street lighting is still a
condition and 8 phasing of the development. She stated there are no
new issues with the plat.
Mr. Currimbhoy made a motion to recommend approval of the plat with
the staff recommendations. Seconded by Mr. Flaata , the motion carried
with Ms. Otteson abstaining.
5. OLD BUSINESS
a) RECONSIDERATION OF PRELIMINARY PLAT/PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT KNOWN AS RAVENWOOD SOUTH
SUBMITTED BY BRUCE NAUSTDAL
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Ms. Wischnack recapped the approval last month and the discussion of
setbacks. She stated staff has reviewed the following recommendations
with the developer:
1. A letter requesting an improvement for public bonding must
be received.
2. Grading and utility plans must be reviewed prior to City
Council review of the preliminary plat.
3. The timing of the construction of the homes on this
property shall be determined in the subdivision agreement.
4. A subdivision agreement must be executed at the time of
final plat.
5. The setbacks shall be 20 feet in the front, 20 feet in the
rear, and 8 feet on the side on lots 1-7, 10 and 11 and 6
feet on the remaining lots.
Mr. Haugen made a motion to recommend approval of the revised
conditions. Seconded by Mr. Flaata. The motion carried unanimously.
b) DISCUSSION OF AMENDING SECTION 8.01 OF THE ZONING
ORDINANCE REGARDING EXISTING TWO FAMILY HOMES IN THE
R1 DISTRICT
Ms. Wischnack commented on the amendment and stated a public
hearing will be necessary to amend the ordinance.
Mr. Fraser made a motion to go forward with the amendment. Seconded
by Mr. Flaata. The motion carried unanimously.
6. COMMUNICATION FROM STAFF
Ms. Wischnack updated the Commissioners on the aerial
photography progress. She stated they flew over the City last
week and the map should be produced by July.
Ms. Wischnack reported on the survey results stating there were
12 more surveys, 8 of which were very positive. There was 86%
customer satisfaction in total. Ms. Wischnack stated comment
cards will be sent with permits in the future.
Chairman Kirchoff commented on an example of a Planning
Commissioner job description and responsibility information.
Mr. Hantge asked about the Habitat for Humanity request. Ms.
Wischnack stated they withdrew the request before City Council
met. There was a meeting with the Habitat people and two City
Council members. They may apply again.
7. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further the meeting adjourned at 7:55 p.m.